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UNITED STATES
SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION
Washington, D.C. 20549
FORM 8-K
CURRENT REPORT
Pursuant to Section 13 or 15(d)
of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934
Date of report (date of earliest event reported): May 5, 2010
DAWSON GEOPHYSICAL COMPANY
(Exact name of Registrant as specified in its charter)
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001-34404
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75-0970548 |
(State of incorporation
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508 W. WALL, SUITE 800 |
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MIDLAND, TEXAS
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Registrants telephone number, including area code: (432) 684-3000
(Former name or former address, if changed since last report)
Check the appropriate box below if the Form 8-K filing is intended to simultaneously satisfy the
filing obligation of the registrant under any of the following provisions (see General Instruction
A.2. below):
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Pre-commencement communications pursuant to Rule 13e-4(c) under the Exchange Act (17 CFR
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Item 7.01. |
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Regulation FD Disclosure. |
On May 5, 2010, Dawson Geophysical Company (the Company) held an investors conference call.
Furnished as Exhibit 99.1 is a copy of the transcript of the Companys presentation during that
call and the questions and answers following the presentation.
Pursuant to the rules and regulations of the Securities and Exchange Commission, the
information set forth in this Item 7.01 and in the attached Exhibit is deemed to be furnished and
shall not be deemed to be filed under the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended (the
Exchange Act).
In accordance with the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act
of 1995, the Company cautions that statements in the Exhibit which are forward-looking and which
provide other than historical information involve risks and uncertainties that may materially
affect the Companys actual results of operations. These risks include but are not limited to, the
volatility of oil and natural gas prices, disruptions in the global economy, dependence upon energy
industry spending, cancellations of service contracts, high fixed costs of operations, weather
interruptions, inability to obtain land access rights of way, industry competition, limited number
of customers, credit risk related to our customers, asset impairments, the availability of capital
resources and operational disruptions. A discussion of these and other factors, including risks and
uncertainties, is set forth in the Companys Form 10-K for the fiscal year ended September 30,
2009. The Company disclaims any intention or obligation to revise any forward-looking statements,
whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise.
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In accordance with General Instruction B.2 of Form 8-K, the information set forth in
the attached Exhibit 99.1 is deemed to be furnished and shall not be deemed to be filed for
purposes of the Exchange Act.
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SIGNATURES
Pursuant to the requirements of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, the registrant has duly
caused this report to be signed on its behalf by the undersigned hereunto duly authorized.
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DAWSON GEOPHYSICAL COMPANY
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Date: May 6, 2010 |
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/s/ Christina W. Hagan
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Christina W. Hagan |
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Executive Vice President, Secretary and
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FINAL TRANSCRIPT
May. 05. 2010 / 2:00PM, DWSN Q2 2010 Dawson Geophysical Earnings Conference Call
CORPORATE PARTICIPANTS
Steve Jumper
Dawson Geophysical Company President, CEO
Christina Hagan
Dawson Geophysical Company EVP, CFO
CONFERENCE CALL PARTICIPANTS
Marshall Adkins
Raymond James & Associates Analyst
Neal Dingmann
Wunderlich Securities, Inc. Analyst
Veny Aleksandrov
Pritchard Capital Analyst
Pierre Conner
Capital One Southcoast, Inc. Analyst
PRESENTATION
Operator
Good morning. My name is Tamika, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time I would
like to welcome everyone to Dawson Geophysical Companys second quarter earnings and update
conference call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the
speakers remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. (Operator Instructions). Thank you.
Mr. Steve Jumper, you may begin your conference.
Steve Jumper - Dawson Geophysical Company President, CEO
Thank you, Tamika. Well, good morning and welcome to Dawson Geophysical Companys second quarter
2010 earnings and operations conference call. As Tamika said, my name is Steve Jumper, President,
Chief Executive Officer of the Company. Joining me on the call are Christina Hagan, Executive Vice
President and Chief Financial Officer, and Decker Dawson, founder and Chairman of the Company.
As in the past, todays call will be presented in three segments. Following opening remarks, Chris
will discuss our financial results, and then I will return for an operations update. Then the call
will be opened up for questions. The call is scheduled for half an hour and we will not provide any
guidance. At this point Ill turn the call over to Chris Hagan, our CFO.
Christina Hagan - Dawson Geophysical Company EVP, CFO
Thanks, Steve. First lets go through our Safe Harbor provision. In accordance with the Safe Harbor
provision of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, Dawson Geophysical Company
cautions that statements made today in this conference call, which are forward-looking and which
provide other than historical information, involve risks and uncertainties that may be materially
affect the Companys actual results of operations. These risks include but are not limited to, the
volatility of oil and natural gas prices, disruptions in the global economy, dependence upon energy
industry spending, cancellations of service contracts, high fixed costs of operations, weather
interruptions, inability to obtain land access rights of way, industry competition, limited number
of customers, credit risks related to our customers, the availability of capital resources and
operational disruptions.
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A discussion of these and other factors, including risks and uncertainties, is set form in the
Form 10-K for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2009. Dawson Geophysical Company disclaims any
intention or obligations to revise any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new
information, future events, or otherwise.
During this conference call, Dawson will make reference to EBITDA, which is a non-GAAP financial
measure. A reconciliation of this non-GAAP measure to the applicable GAAP measure can be found in
Dawsons current earnings release, a copy of which is located on the Dawsons website,
www.dawson3d.com.
This morning we reported revenues of $48.585 million for the quarter ending March 31, 2010, our
second quarter fiscal 2010, compared to $64.625 million for the same quarter in fiscal 2009,
representing a decrease of 25%. Net loss for the second quarter of fiscal 2010 was $2.706 million,
compared to a net income of $6.170 million in the same quarter of fiscal 2009. Loss per share for
the second quarter fiscal 2010 was $0.35, compared to income per share of $0.79 for the second
quarter of fiscal 2009. EBITDA for the second quarter fiscal 2010 was $2.488 million,compared to
$16.814 million in the same quarter fiscal 2009.
The revenue decrease in the quarter compared to the same quarter of fiscal 2009 was primarily the
result of previously announced reductions in active crew count, from 16 to nine crews, which began
in the second quarter of fiscal 2009 with four crews, and in the third quarter fiscal 2009 two
additional crews, and in the first quarter of fiscal 2010, one additional crew.
Revenues in the quarter continue to include relatively high third-party charges related to the use
of helicopter support services, specialized survey technologies and dynamite energy sources. And we
are reimbursed for these expenses by our clients. Steve?
Steve Jumper - Dawson Geophysical Company President, CEO
Well, thank you, Chris. Our second quarter fiscal 2010 results showed significant improvement over
our first quarter fiscal 2010 results. EBITDA increased from a loss of $211,000 in the first
quarter to a gain of $2.488 million in the second quarter. During the second quarter, we redeployed
two seismic data operation crews and operated 11 crews for much of the quarter. Utilization rates
were improved from what we experienced in recent quarters, particularly the first quarter of fiscal
2010.
Although difficult weather conditions, including heavy snowfalls across the country, which included
record levels in Pennsylvania, along with wet and icy conditions across many areas of the country,
negatively impacted our utilization rates and our quarterly results. The weather impact in the
quarter reduced revenue levels due to increased downtime, and at the same time increased expenses
on several crews by requiring us to employ additional personnel and equipment to complete projects
in a timely manner. In addition, weather conditions forced us to temporarily discontinue a project,
which in turn negatively impacted utilization rates for a short period of time. We plan to return
to this project in the early fall timeframe.
The third-party reimbursable charges for the quarter increased to very high levels as a percentage
of revenue. The percentage increase is related to lower crew revenue, but more importantly reflect
an increase in activity in areas such as the Marcellus, Haynesville and Fayetteville shale basins,
which require more preparatory work and lead time than many other regions in the country.
Demand for our services remains steady and is greatly improved compared to the second quarter of
fiscal 2009. Our current order book reflects commitments sufficient to maintain operations of our
11 crews well into calendar 2010. We currently have projects in the Marcellus Shale, Fayetteville
Shale, Eagle Ford Shale, Haynesville Shale, Barnett Shale, and throughout the oil-producing basins
in the western regions of the country.
Currently our project mix is approximately 70% natural gas and 30% oil driven. Our project sizes
range from very small projects, something in the neighborhood of ten square miles, to very large
projects involving hundreds of square miles. And our contract mix is predominantly turnkey type
contracts.
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That said, while demand levels remain relatively high for mid-2009 levels, the US seismic
market continues to be challenging. Availability of ready projects, aggressive price competition,
weather-related risk and the resurgence of multiclient surveys are among our most difficult
challenges. Over the course of our Companys history, we have faced these similar challenges
before. We believe the key to our long-term success is to remain disciplined in our approach to the
business,maintain key employees and client relationships, acquire equipment as needed and stay
focused on the balance sheet.
Our project size mix and the recent strengthening of our order book should allow us the opportunity
to mitigate some of the short-term utilization rate issues we have faced in recent quarters. While
pricing is competitive, our turnkey contracts should allow us to capitalize on improved crew
efficiencies and productivities with increased channel count. However, I would caution that while
turnkey contracts allow us more opportunities to increase margin, we also bear more risk related to
weather and operational downtime.
Our focus remains on our core business, helping our clients find and develop oil and gas reservoirs
cost effectively. As I have said, well remain disciplined in our approach to our business model as
we continue to seek out new opportunities, clients, markets and applications of our technology.
During the second quarter, the Board of Directors approved an increase to our 2010 capital budget
from $10 million to $20 million. The increase in the budget was to take advantage of an opportunity
to purchase additional RSR and ARAM channels, as a demand for increased channel count in industry
continues, and we continue to replace MRX capacity. We took delivery of the additional channels in
March. Our current channel count is in excess of 120,000, all of which we own.
In February, we deployed our new OYO GSR system as previously announced. Today the OYO system has
been utilized as a three-component expansion of an ARAM system and as a stand-alone system on
several small projects. We continue to see opportunity to deploy the OYO system in various
capacities, as we become more familiar with its operations. The balance of the 2010 capital budget
will be used for the purchase of additional geophones and maintenance capital requirements. After
our recent purchases, our balance sheet remains strong, with no debt and over $80 million of
working capital.
Overall, the lower 48 seismic data acquisition market is beginning to show signs of positive
growth, certainly in comparison to the first half of 2009. There are still, however, obstacles to
overcome. Weather and land access permits will continue to impact our results going forward,
particularly with our shift toward predominantly turnkey contracts. Pricing remains competitive and
difficult. The overall pace of economic activity is uncertain. However, we believe the opportunity
to overcome the difficult pricing environment and operational risk in our turnkey contracts exists
with increased productivity and efficiencies at the crew level.
In closing, our strong balance sheet with over $80 million of working capital and no debt, our
asset base, the retention of key technical and operational staff, and our strong client
relationships we believe puts us in position to capture the upside of the business cycle. It is our
intention to continue to operate with a conservative financial structure, remain loyal to our
employees and shareholders, while continuing to focus on helping our trusted clients find oil and
natural gas. And with that, Tamika, we are ready to open the call up for questions.
QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS
Operator
(Operator Instructions). Well pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. Your first
question comes from the line of Marshall Adkins with Raymond James.
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Marshall Adkins - Raymond James & Associates Analyst
Good morning. Chris, I was wondering if you could go back to the Safe Harbor statement again. You
did such a good job on that. Just kidding there. I dont need that.
Steve Jumper - Dawson Geophysical Company President, CEO
Do you have a question?
Christina Hagan - Dawson Geophysical Company EVP, CFO
Thank goodness.
Marshall Adkins - Raymond James & Associates Analyst
Steve, I know this is really hard to do, but weather was a big impact this quarter. Can you to some
degree help quantify that for me? How much of that hurt you? And really what Im trying to get to
is, looking towards looking forward to the current quarter were in or even the next quarter,
how do we return to profitability? Is it the weather going away or the weather interruptions that
we had this quarter going away? Or is it higher pricing? Is it better utilization? How do we get
back to profitability in the coming quarters?
Steve Jumper - Dawson Geophysical Company President, CEO
In the second quarter, and this was trailing somewhat out of the first quarter, we had two crews
working in North Dakota that were heavily impacted by heavy snowfall. And so we had a negative
impact on those two crews, which involved additional equipment and personnel. We had the same thing
happen on two crews in Pennsylvania. The two crews in Pennsylvania the impact to those two crews
was not as significant as the stuff wed faced in North Dakota, because we were facing a little bit
of freezing and melting and snowfall. And so we had four crews impacted in the northern part. We
had a crew in the Rockies that we had to pull off of that project. And then we had quite a bit of
snow and ice off and on in, particularly, North Texas, up through the Arkansas region. So I think
the weather impact certainly in February was I would say significant. I dont know that I can
quantify what that means, Marshall.
Getting back to profitability, the pricing issue is definitely out there. And thats going to be a
difficult one to overcome here in the short-term. I think our key to profitability is going to be
utilization. Its going to be able to keep projects permitted, downtime between projects limited,
more fluid in our movement from job to job. More impact to productivity is probably the biggest
key, whether its permits or weather, either one.
Over the stretch, Marshall, in the last year, even in the difficult environment that weve been in,
weve had months where weve performed very, very well, and weve talked about this in the past.
And going back for years that we can be sailing along and have a great quarter, and then all of a
sudden we get to a week or two towards the very end of the quarter, and all that can be impacted by
weather.
Were starting to get a little bit of maybe slight improvement in pricing. We felt like we were
seeing that some last quarter. So Im optimistic there. I think were starting to see a little bit,
going into the summer months, the weather impact ought to be less. I certainly am not going to give
any guidance as to what I think profitability will be around. But I think given the right set of
weather conditions and permit situations, things we cant control, I think weve got a shot.
Whether were going to get there in the next quarter or two, I cant forecast that.
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Marshall Adkins - Raymond James & Associates Analyst
Is it out of the realm of possibility that the weather, this snow and ice you referred to, cost us
$0.20, cost you $0.20 this quarter?
Steve Jumper - Dawson Geophysical Company President, CEO
Marshall, I dont know. I think I dont know that I can quantify it. I do know that we had some
rollover expenses related to some of this increase. But I think thats a difficult question for me
to answer.
Marshall Adkins - Raymond James & Associates Analyst
Okay.
Steve Jumper - Dawson Geophysical Company President, CEO
So Im going to pass on that.
Marshall Adkins - Raymond James & Associates Analyst
But does it sounds like at the margin,
from last month to the month before, some modest pricing
improvement.
Steve Jumper - Dawson Geophysical Company President, CEO
Very, very, very modest. Ive its still pricing is still down from where it was late 2008
significantly, whether that number is 30% or 40%,I dont know. 20%, 30%, 40%, something like that.
But I think the other issue that were dealing with is back in 2008, early part of 2009, fiscal 09
as we were rolling off the order book that we had, we also had a contract mix that was about 50/50
turnkey day rate, which is where we really wanted to be. Now were predominantly turnkey, which
puts us right back in the situation weve been in before, which is going to make us more dependent
on crew efficiency and productivity and
Marshall Adkins - Raymond James & Associates Analyst
And weather.
Steve Jumper - Dawson Geophysical Company President, CEO
bring in more risks on the weather and the permit issue.
Marshall Adkins - Raymond James & Associates Analyst
Right. Okay. So modest pricing. How about
Steve Jumper - Dawson Geophysical Company President, CEO
Very modest.
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Marshall Adkins - Raymond James & Associates Analyst
How about bid levels, just in the last the trend over the last two to three months? Is it pretty
much just constant now that weve seen gas go to $4, are those bidding activities, thats trailing
off a little bit?
Steve Jumper - Dawson Geophysical Company President, CEO
I dont think weve seen the bid activity in the Marcellus or the Eagle Ford, for example, be
impacted by gas prices going to $4. The demand levels in those two particular areas remain
relatively high. Certainly compared to where they were a year ago. I would say bid activity ramped
up pretty rapidly coming out of calendar 09 and into first quarter of calendar 2010. I think in
recent timeframe, last couple of weeks or month or so, I dont think weve seen that steady
increase in bid activity. But its been steady.
So we had a ramp-up going back into the third and fourth quarter of last year. We havent seen a
dropoff. I would consider the bid activity to be relatively stable and steady. Very a lot of
activity in the Marcellus, a lot of activity in the Eagle Ford. A lot of activity in the
mid-continent oil areas. Weve continued to be very active in the Fayetteville and continue to have
quite a bit of quite a few commitments in the Barnett. And so the Eagle Ford and the Marcellus,
while they have an increase activity bid level activity, those are also two areas where there
seems more activity related to multiclient projects as well.
Marshall Adkins - Raymond James & Associates Analyst
So it sounds like its kind of mirroring the rig counts. Bidding activity anyway.
Steve Jumper - Dawson Geophysical Company President, CEO
Yes.
Marshall Adkins - Raymond James & Associates Analyst
Last question from me; Ill turn it over. Weve seen a big influx of multiclient stuff, which
historically we havent really seen in the US. I guess the shale plays, the size of those makes it
more amenable for the companies to do that. Is that something you consider comment on the
multiclient stuff, if you would. Thanks.
Steve Jumper - Dawson Geophysical Company President, CEO
Well, Marshall, its a different business model from the business model we have followed for a
long, long time. And my assessment of the multiclient business model is that, one, you have to have
the staff to put those projects together. Two, its location, location, location. If its in the
right spot, under the right circumstances, I think its going to work well. You have a pre-funding
level commitment that a threshold that needs to be met. And then theres the issue of once
youve acquired it, or youre in the process of acquiring it, how you account for it.
I think there have been some that have worked well. I know some cases where the model in the lower
48 in these shale play appear to be working well. I have seen some that the jury is still out on,
and well see how they that develops. Were not going to go shoot a multiclient survey just to
keep crews active. We would I think that model needs to be looked at very, very closely and
opportunities scrutinized. But at this point I would say we dont have any intentions today of
entering into the multiclient data library business.
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Marshall Adkins - Raymond James & Associates Analyst
Thank you.
Steve Jumper - Dawson Geophysical Company President, CEO
Okay.
Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Neal Dingmann with Wunderlich Securities.
Neal Dingmann - Wunderlich Securities, Inc. Analyst
Yes.
Steve Jumper - Dawson Geophysical Company President, CEO
Hey, Neal.
Neal Dingmann - Wunderlich Securities, Inc. Analyst
Hey, Steve. Quick question. You mentioned on the OYO system, obviously it sounds like its going
well. Is that something that youd continue, I guess, to bring in? Youd bring more of those
systems out if demand starts to tick up. I mean, are you seeing is there much benefit on those
versus previous systems?
Steve Jumper - Dawson Geophysical Company President, CEO
I think in the certain situations, the answer to that question is yes, Neil. We just recently
increased our channel count with a purchase of some more RSR and ARAM channels. And so I think
theres still a very long life with both ARAM and the RSR. I do think that GSR system and is
going to have its place. We dont have enough of it in-house to operate any large projects as
stand-alone, but its worked quite well where weve used it as an add-on component to ARAM, and
weve used it on some very small projects.
It works well. Its weve been pleased with its operational functionality. The data quality
coming out of it is high-quality data, and weve still got some places were put it to work here
the next couple of quarters, both as stand-alone and add on to the ARAM. I think over the near
future, the majority of what it will do will be add on to ARAM as a three-component patch within a
larger conventional 3D survey. And so were going to keep watching very, very closely,and hope
demand picks up at a level where we need more of a lot of stuff.
Neal Dingmann - Wunderlich Securities, Inc. Analyst
Right. Right. What about speaking of that, what would you have to see? I mean, obviously now,
with the 11 crews, in order to decide to bring out another crew, would somebody have to come in and
contract that for a month or several months? Or what would you have to see to bring out another
crew?
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Steve Jumper - Dawson Geophysical Company President, CEO
Well, as weve said in the past, going up in crew count and down in crew count for us has to be
two-fold. Is there long-term visibility to keep that crew busy, which certainly can be tied to a
long-term contract somewhere. And do you have short-term visibility to keep utilization rates high.
And what has impacted those our decisions in the past have been those two factors, along with
our clients needs and demands at the time. And I think right now the 11-crew capacity that were
operating is sufficient to meet short-term utilization rate issues. It doesnt do any good to have
14 out there and ten of them working. So our goal is to keep every to keep as high a utilization
rate on whatever crew count we have out there currently its 11 and be able to see some
long-term visibility.
It would be easier for us to expand from 11 to 12 to 14, whatever the case may be, because we have
the equipment in-house, and weve retained the key personnel. So there wouldnt be a big CapEx
level to expand, like weve had to worry about in the 2005 to 2008 timeframe. But right now I think
were pretty comfortable with the 11-crew count capacity were operating. But well see where it
goes in the next couple of months or quarters.
Neal Dingmann - Wunderlich Securities, Inc. Analyst
Okay. And then on the cash, obviously you sit in a pretty nice position and continue to generate
cash. Do you continue to consider to buying shares or a special dividend, or whats the thought
with that?
Steve Jumper - Dawson Geophysical Company President, CEO
Were a capital-intensive, cash-intensive business. If you look at just the sudden resurgence in
the work back into Marcellus, particularly related to these high third-party levels, were a
capital-intensive, high-working capital requirement operation. And so at this point we do not have
any plans to buy back shares. Dont have any plans for dividends. Were going to continue to invest
the cash we have back into the business as weve done historically.
Neal Dingmann - Wunderlich Securities, Inc. Analyst
Okay. And the last
Steve Jumper - Dawson Geophysical Company President, CEO
This thing turns around, were going to need every bit of that.
Neal Dingmann - Wunderlich Securities, Inc. Analyst
Okay. Thats where I was going. And then last question. I mean, would you look at taking the crew
unit, being international, Canada, or again with all of the shale plays and such, that will keep
you all busy?
Steve Jumper - Dawson Geophysical Company President, CEO
The international market is a tough one to enter and a tough one to stay in. If youre in the right
place with the right circumstances, it works well. But just to go in and be competitive in an area
that youre not accustomed to working is a very difficult thing to do. I dont see anything right
now international related.
The international world tends to be more project-driven. The US is more market-driven. Theres more
E&P companies, more clients, more areas. The international, you work for large companies or NOCs or
something like that. And its not our desire to
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enter into an international world or market to create competition. We would have to have the
right set of circumstances to consider an international opportunity.
Neal Dingmann - Wunderlich Securities, Inc. Analyst
Got it. Thank you.
Steve Jumper - Dawson Geophysical Company President, CEO
Thanks, Neal.
Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Veny Aleksandrov with Pritchard.
Veny Aleksandrov - Pritchard Capital Analyst
Good morning.
Steve Jumper - Dawson Geophysical Company President, CEO
Good morning, Veny.
Veny Aleksandrov - Pritchard Capital Analyst
I have a couple of questions. My first one, the order book is good. Hopefully well see some
improvement in pricing. Youre adding in new equipment, which means that the crews are getting
bigger. Without going into guidance, can I assume that revenue per crew is going to improve for the
rest of the year?
Steve Jumper - Dawson Geophysical Company President, CEO
If the weather holds, I would say yes. I think its going to be a weather, permit-related issue
more than anything else. And thats why it is extremely difficult for me to project that for you,
Veny, because I dont really know what the weather conditions are going to be. But if our
utilization rates remain high and the weather stays off of us, I certainly think we have a chance
for improvement. I dont think were I dont see a significant increase in pricing coming. I
think were going to look at modest pricing increasing at best.
Veny Aleksandrov - Pritchard Capital Analyst
Okay. And thank you. And my other question, the new outplays where some of the work is coming,
what are projects? Are they long-term jobs, bigger jobs, or they kind of the same as the natural
gas shale jobs?
Steve Jumper - Dawson Geophysical Company President, CEO
Weve got them in the Permian Basin, for example, anywhere from 10 to 50 square miles. Permian
Basin inclusive of Eastern New Mexico. Weve got some things in the mid-continent that are 100 to
150 square miles. And then the stuff we did up in
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North Dakota was two crews of about six months each. And I can see that coming back around as
an opportunity later in the year. So I think theyre probably more diverse in size than the
Marcellus, Fayetteville, Eagle Ford projects tend to be. They Marcellus projects for us tend to
be in the 50 to 75, 100 square mile range. You dont see many real small ones. Were not involved
in any real big ones out there. But I think the oil side probably will be a little more diverse in
project sizes than the shale place.
Veny Aleksandrov - Pritchard Capital Analyst
Okay, thank you. And if you can just remind me, this quarter you had a very high level of
reimbursables. I understand that. But if you look historically before you had the weathering impact
and everything, what was the level, the user level reimbursable compared to the revenues?
Steve Jumper - Dawson Geophysical Company President, CEO
In the last several years, its the highest weve been at. Its weve always talked about a
range of 25 to 35, and we exceeded the high range by a little bit.
Veny Aleksandrov - Pritchard Capital Analyst
Okay.
Steve Jumper - Dawson Geophysical Company President, CEO
So we were outside the normal range, weighted heavily to the high side.
Veny Aleksandrov - Pritchard Capital Analyst
Thank you so much. Those were my questions. Thanks.
Steve Jumper - Dawson Geophysical Company President, CEO
Thank you, Veny.
Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Pierre Conner with Capital One Southcoast.
Pierre Conner - Capital One Southcoast, Inc. Analyst
Good morning, Steve.
Steve Jumper - Dawson Geophysical Company President, CEO
Hi, Pierre. Have you guys, still celebrating in New Orleans?
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Pierre Conner - Capital One Southcoast, Inc. Analyst
Yes. Right. Right. We have another issue were working on right now, actually.
Steve Jumper - Dawson Geophysical Company President, CEO
I know. I know.
Pierre Conner - Capital One Southcoast, Inc. Analyst
I appreciate it. Hey, Steve. Since your questions about you answered about the crew count were
interesting, but it is more about the channels. And so I wondered if you could describe the trends
of the channels per crew that youve seen sequentially into this quarter. And then do you have
enough data about the next couple to see if that changes any in terms of channels per crew or
channels per job, or where we see it fairly stable?
Steve Jumper - Dawson Geophysical Company President, CEO
Pierre, we this somewhat relates to the pricing question inthat its very difficult for me to
quantify what the pricing levels are from where we were a year ago, two years ago, to where we are
today. Because its not just an apples-to-apples price comparison. Weve talked about 2007 and
2008, that the pricing was not linear with channel count. But yet there was an added value with
increase channel count. And so while it wasnt linear, increase crew capacity was resulted in
better images, better efficiencies and all those types of things.
Now in relation to pricing, in the last year or so, I dont know how much pricing is down versus
its a difficult thing to determine if its a pricing issue or if were adding more channels for
the same price.
Pierre Conner - Capital One Southcoast, Inc. Analyst
Okay.
Steve Jumper - Dawson Geophysical Company President, CEO
As we did before. And so, yes, pricing has been a problem. But as demand for increased channel
count has continued to grow, weve attempted to be in a position where channel count is actually
being utilized at a much higher rate than crew count is. Unfortunately we havent been able to
price that in in recent quarters like we have in the past.
Pierre Conner - Capital One Southcoast, Inc. Analyst
Okay.
Steve Jumper - Dawson Geophysical Company President, CEO
From a channel count standpoint, our crews are bigger and larger and carry more capacity on an
average basis than they ever have. In 2008, we were operating three or four crews in excess of
10,000. Had an average somewhere I dont know six or so, five or six. I think our average is
probably up to 8,500. And so weve spread those channels over the existing crews. And so in essence
our utilization rates on channel count have been much higher than crew count, which is somewhat
increased a little
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bit the expense level of the crews. But thats a reason why weve bought the RSR and the ARAM
channels. I think were going to continue to see channel count increase on a crew-by-crew basis, as
we go forward.
Pierre Conner - Capital One Southcoast, Inc. Analyst
Okay. Have you heard any early feedback on this very large channel count shoot that was completed
in the Rockies earlier in the winter. The numbers are 50 or more thousand channels. That was pretty
early. But is there anything else out there like that that could absorb a lot of channels?
Steve Jumper - Dawson Geophysical Company President, CEO
I dont see any projects out there. Weve not been approached or were not familiar with any
projects that will get up into the 100,000 channel range, no. And I believe the last I heard, that
particular project probably touched 100,000 channels at one point. And weve not heard of anything
that size. We I think most of what were seeing is the crew capacity of 8,500 to 10,000. We have
some coming up in the later in the year that will require 13,000 to 15,000 on the crew. But
nothing to that level that youre talking about.
Pierre Conner - Capital One Southcoast, Inc. Analyst
Okay. Thats helpful. A couple things on some of your commentary. And you mentioned that you have
some visibility to keep the current crews working as well into calendar 10, and last quarter we
talked about at least until mid-10. Is that just another 90 days, because were a quarter later,
or did you truly add some basically you just replaced your burn-off? Are you actually growing
that?
Steve Jumper - Dawson Geophysical Company President, CEO
In the last quarter weve been able to replace the burn-off, as you said. So weve had enough
demand to and enough commitment come in to replace what were shooting on the front side. But
you do bring up an interesting question in that the reason that it is difficult for me to sit here
and tell you its going to be a particular timeframe in terms of months, crew-months, or its going
to be in dollars, we dont report our backlog that way.
The efficiency level is such that the replacement the more efficient we get, the faster we churn
through the backlog. So a lot of where were going to end up is going to be replacement of backlog
and the weather impact. And I feel like today and I think our staff feels this way that
theres sufficient demand levels for us to continue to replace backlog on these 11 crews as we
acquire at a higher rate, at a high utilization rate.
Pierre Conner - Capital One Southcoast, Inc. Analyst
Okay.
Steve Jumper - Dawson Geophysical Company President, CEO
Well see what happens as we enter the summer months and see what the crew efficiencies are going
to be, what the weather impact is going to be. And what the replacement levels on the backlog will
be. Without being terribly specific, Im trying to help you as much as I can here, Pierre.
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Pierre Conner - Capital One Southcoast, Inc. Analyst
It is actually, it helps get a picture of, you will have improved efficiency, particularly
with the weather improvement. So to that end, I think last year and you indicated earlier I think
in the answer to Marshalls question, you were 50/50 turnkey and day rate, and then last quarter I
think you shared a number, kind of in the 70 to 80. You said majority.
Steve Jumper - Dawson Geophysical Company President, CEO
Yes. I think over the summer. Right now were we may have any given time one or two of the 11
working day rate. And I think that well probably be one or two on day rate through the as we
get into the summer months. And so were still heavily, heavily, heavily weighted to the turnkey
side of the contract mix at this point.
Pierre Conner - Capital One Southcoast, Inc. Analyst
That was exactly the answer to the question. Thank you. Perfect. And then the last one, more,
Christina, any with the additional capital, would you project without guidance per se, where
depreciation goes to? Are we going to be moving up sequentially?
Christina Hagan - Dawson Geophysical Company EVP, CFO
Were going to move up a little, but not significantly.
Pierre Conner - Capital One Southcoast, Inc. Analyst
Okay. Okay. Thats fine. Okay, guys. Thank you all very much for the information.
Steve Jumper - Dawson Geophysical Company President, CEO
Thank you, Pierre.
Operator
And there are no further questions at this time.
Steve Jumper - Dawson Geophysical Company President, CEO
Well thank you for listening in. Id particularly like to thank our employees for their efforts and
our clients for their continued trust and our shareholders, their continued support. And we will be
back in touch with you as at the end of the third quarter. Thank you.
Operator
This concludes todays conference call. You may now disconnect.
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