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UNITED STATES
SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION
Washington, D.C. 20549
FORM 8-K
CURRENT REPORT
Pursuant to Section 13 or 15(d)
of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934
Date of report (date of earliest event reported): August 5, 2009
DAWSON GEOPHYSICAL COMPANY
(Exact name of Registrant as specified in its charter)
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TEXAS
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001-34404
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75-0970548
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508 W. WALL, SUITE 800
MIDLAND, TEXAS
(Address of principal executive offices)
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79701
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Registrants telephone number, including area code: (432) 684-3000
(Former name or former address, if changed since last report)
Check the appropriate box below if the Form 8-K filing is intended to simultaneously satisfy the
filing obligation of the registrant under any of the following provisions (see General Instruction
A.2. below):
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TABLE OF CONTENTS
Item 7.01. Regulation FD Disclosure.
On August 5, 2009, Dawson Geophysical Company (the Company) held an investors conference
call. Furnished as Exhibit 99.1 is a copy of the transcript of the Companys presentation during
that call and the questions and answers following the presentation.
Pursuant to the rules and regulations of the Securities and Exchange Commission, the
information set forth in this Item 7.01 and in the attached Exhibit is deemed to be furnished and
shall not be deemed to be filed under the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended (the
Exchange Act).
In accordance with the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act
of 1995, the Company cautions that statements in the Exhibit which are forward-looking and which
provide other than historical information involve risks and uncertainties that may materially
affect the Companys actual results of operations. These risks include but are not limited to, the
volatility of oil and natural gas prices, disruptions in the global economy, dependence upon energy
industry spending, limited number of customers, credit risk related to our customers, cancellations
of service contracts, high fixed costs of operations, weather interruptions, inability to obtain
land access rights of way, industry competition, managing growth, the availability of capital
resources and operational disruptions. A discussion of these and other factors, including risks and
uncertainties, is set forth in the Companys Form 10-K for the fiscal year ended September 30,
2008. The Company disclaims any intention or obligation to revise any forward-looking statements,
whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise.
Item 9.01. Financial Statements and Exhibits.
(d) Exhibits
In accordance with General Instruction B.2 of Form 8-K, the information set forth in the
attached Exhibit 99.1 is deemed to be furnished and shall not be deemed to be filed for
purposes of the Exchange Act.
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SIGNATURES
Pursuant to the requirements of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, the registrant has duly
caused this report to be signed on its behalf by the undersigned hereunto duly authorized.
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DAWSON GEOPHYSICAL COMPANY
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/s/ Christina W. Hagan
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Executive Vice President, Secretary and
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FINAL TRANSCRIPT
Aug. 05.2009 / 2:00PM, DWSN Q3 2009 Dawson Geophysical Earnings Conference Call
CORPORATE PARTICIPANTS
Steve Jumper
Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
Christina Hagan
Dawson Geophysical EVP & CFO
Ray Tobias
Dawson Geophysical EVP & COO
Decker Dawson
Dawson Geophysical Chairman & Founder
CONFERENCE CALL PARTICIPANTS
Marshall Adkins
Raymond James Analyst
Neal Dingmann
Wunderlich Securities Analyst
Pierre Conner
Capital One Analyst
Veny Aleksandrov
Pritchard Capital Partners Analyst
PRESENTATION
Operator
Good morning. My name is Stephanie and I will be your conference operator today. At this time I
would like to welcome everyone to the Dawson Geophysical third quarter conference call. All lines
have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers remarks, there will
be a question and answer session. (OPERATOR INSTRUCTIONS)
I would now like to turn the conference over to Steve Jumper, President and CEO of Dawson Geophysical. Mr. Jumper, you may begin your conference.
Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
Thank you, Stephanie. Well, good morning and welcome to Dawson Geophysical Companys third quarter
2009 earnings and operations conference call. As Stephanie said, my name is Steve Jumper, President
and Chief Executive Officer of the Company. Joining me on the call are Christina Hagan, Executive
Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Ray Tobias, Executive Vice President and Chief
Operating Officer, and Decker Dawson, Chairman.
As we have done in the past, todays call will be presented in three segments. Following these very
brief opening remarks, Chris will discuss our financial results. I will then return for an
operations update, then open the call for questions. The call is scheduled for 30 minutes, and we
will not provide any guidance.
At this point I will turn control of the call over to Chris Hagan, our CFO.
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Christina Hagan Dawson Geophysical EVP & CFO
Thanks, Steve. First let me share our Safe Harbor provisions. In accordance with the Safe Harbor
provision of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, Dawson Geophysical Company
cautions that statements made today in this conference call which are forward-looking and which
provide other than historical information involve risks and uncertainties that may materially
affect the Companys actual results of operations.
These risks include but are not limited to the volatility of oil and natural gas prices,
disruptions in the global economy, dependence upon energy industry spending, limited number of
customers, credit risk related to our customers, cancellations of service contracts, high fixed
cost of operations, weather interruptions, inability to obtain land access rights of way, industry
competition, the availability of capital resources and operational disruptions.
A discussion of these and other factors, including risks and uncertainties, is set forth in our
Form 10-K for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2008. Dawson Geophysical Company disclaims any
intention or obligations to revise any forward-looking statements whether as a result of new
information, future events or otherwise.
During this conference call, Dawson will make references to EBITDA, which is a non-GAAP financial
measure. A reconciliation of this non-GAAP measure to the applicable GAAP measure can be found in
our current earnings release, a copy of which is located on our website, www.dawson3d.com.
Turning to our earnings release, today we reported revenues of $52,319,000 for the quarter ending
June 30th, 2009, our third quarter of fiscal 2009, compared to $84,568,000 for the same quarter in
fiscal 2008, a decrease of 38%. We are reporting a net loss for the third quarter of fiscal 2009
of $1,626,000 compared to net income of $9,707,000 in the same quarter of fiscal 2008. Losses per
share for the third quarter of fiscal 2009 were $0.21 per share compared to earnings of $1.27 per
share in the same quarter of fiscal 2008.
EBITDA for the third quarter of fiscal 2009 was $4,245,000 compared to $22,397,000 in the same
quarter of fiscal 2008, a decrease of 81%. Revenues in the third quarter of fiscal 2009 continue
to include relatively high third-party charges related to the use of helicopter support services,
specialized survey technologies, and dynamite energy sources. The same level of these charges is
driven by our continued operations in areas of limited access in the Appalachian Basin, Arkansas
and Louisiana. We are reimbursed for these expenses by our clients.
For the nine months ended June 30th, 2009, revenues were $197,160,000 compared to $240,530,000 for
the same period of 2008, a decrease of 18%. Net income for the first nine months of fiscal 2009
decreased 52% to $12,278,000 compared to $25,703,000 for the first nine months of fiscal 2008.
Earnings per share for the first nine months of fiscal 2009 were $1.57 as compared to $3.35 for
the first nine months of fiscal 2008, a decrease of 53%.
EBITDA was $40,221,000 in the first nine months of fiscal 2009 as compared to $59,595,000 in the
same period of fiscal 2008, a decrease of 33%. Due to current market conditions, we plan to continue to limit our approved $20
million capital expenditures budget in the near term. Steve?
Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
Thank you, Chris. During the second quarter conference call, I said as we work our way through the
spring and summer months there would be no denying that these are challenging times. Demand for
our services softened as a result of reduced capital spending on behalf of our client E&P
companies. In response to weakened demand, we reduced our overall crew count by four crews in the
second quarter and two more crews in the third quarter, leaving a total of ten crews currently
operating in South Texas, West Texas, Louisiana, Montana and the Appalachian Basin. Our level of
ten crews maintains our position as a leading provider of on-shore seismic data acquisition
services in the lower 48.
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In addition to reduced crew count, we experienced low short-term utilization rates on the remaining
crews as a result of weak demand and a more competitive pricing environment in the market for
seismic data acquisition services. Despite todays challenging environment, we remain optimistic
regarding the industrys long-term fundamentals. As a general principle, in order to effectively
identify and develop hydrocarbon reservoirs and limit dry hole risks, exploration and production
companies require the use of advanced seismic services.
While these services are subject to the same ups and downs that all service companies face in the
oil and gas industry, seismic tools are a key component in the exploration and production process.
The key to long-term success in a highly cyclical industry, however, is to maintain a solid
financial structure with little or no debt, maintain the most qualified personnel in the industry,
and continue to deploy capital in a prudent manner.
Even through challenging times we have maintained our commitment to each of these underlying
principles. We continue to have a strong balance sheet with no long-term debt, we maintain and
have maintained the most qualified and capable staff in the industry, and we continue to deploy
capital in a manner that we believe will build value and generate strong returns over the
long-term.
In recent months we have seen an increase in demand for our services in many of the oil-producing
basins, as well as continued demand in the large natural gas shale basin. Today, approximately 30%
of our active crews are working in oil-producing regions. Although our clients may cancel their
service contracts on short notice, our current order book reflects commitment levels sufficient to
maintain operation of our ten crews into fiscal 2010.
While we have reduced crew count in both the second and third quarters, the average data
collection channel count for a crew remains strong. Exploration and production companies are
continuing demand, greater sub-surface resolution in their search for hydrocarbon reservoirs, and
as a result, continue to rely on an increased number of channels to achieve this objective.
Our investments in recording capacity and equipment in recent years gives us the ability to
provide this service while simultaneously helping to lower finding and development costs through
increased crew efficiencies and positions us as a valued component in our clients ongoing
initiatives.
In light of the reduced demand, as Chris mentioned earlier, we lowered our capital expenditures
during the first nine months of fiscal 2009 to $4,318,000. We will continue to monitor and
potentially limit our capital expenditures in the near term toward necessary maintenance
requirements.
It is important to note that the deployment of capital of previous years, specifically capital
that was invested in increased channel count, technology enhancements and other value-driven
endeavors geared toward increased sub-surface resolution continue to provide us with a competitive
advantage in todays marketplace, and our clients continue to demand greater sub-surface
resolution in their search for hydrocarbons.
As we anticipate improving our industry fundamentals in a stronger economy, we are positioned to
react quickly to capture the upside of the business cycle. Our financial strength and disciplined
investment strategy allows us to respond quickly to market dynamics. We believe our strong balance
sheet, the flexibility to deploy capital as needed to maintain competitive technology, our quality
personnel and broad range of services provides us with the opportunity to build upon our position
as a leading provider of seismic data acquisition services in the lower 48. Our commitment to
helping our clients limit dry-hole risk, lower finding and development costs, and evaluate basins
most conducive to hydrocarbon accumulation is as strong today as it was 57 years ago.
We have and will stay committed to our business strategy. We retain and employ the best people in
the industry. We operate with a conservative financial structure as evidenced by our debt-free
balance sheet. We provide a wide range of services necessary to compete at the highest levels. We
stay focused on our core business, helping our clients find oil and gas in the
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lower 48. We operate the most technologically advanced equipment and processes available to the
industry, and we supply our services in response to our clients demands and needs while
maintaining strong relationships with operators of all sizes.
While todays challenges cannot be ignored, they also bring with them great opportunity. 30% of our
crews are now operating in oil-producing basins. All across the industry weve seen an overall
reduction in crew count all across the lower 48, which is as we have done, which is giving us an
opportunity to maintain and potentially increase our market share going forward. And our solid
financial structure with no long-term debt allows us quickly to adapt to market changes and capture
the upside of the business cycle.
And with that, Operator, we are ready for questions.
QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS
Operator
(OPERATOR INSTRUCTIONS) Well pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. Your first
question comes from the line of Marshall Adkins with Raymond James.
Marshall Adkins Raymond James Analyst
Good morning.
Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
Good morning, Marshall.
Marshall Adkins Raymond James Analyst
Obviously the story here is the margin deterioration. Can you give me some more color on more
specifically what happened in the quarter on the margins? You mentioned that your reimbursables
were pretty high. Last quarter they were exceptionally low, so thats probably a pretty good part
of it. I assume weather has been pretty good, at least in Texas it has. Maybe thats affected
other areas. I noticed bad debt expense bounced up. Try to break down for me how much of the
margin deterioration was associated with different categories.
Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
Well, Marshall, its going to be difficult to put in categories, but Ill tell you this. We
reduced from 16 to 12 in Q2. We reduced from 12 to 10 in the early part of Q3. A couple things to
comment on there. Weve talked about in the past, even the last conference call, that the demand
equation is two-fold. Youve got long-term demand, order book drawing, can you see some
visibility, and then you have the short-term demand issue.
The largest chunk of our issues in the third quarter were related to short-term utilization rates.
We have a competitive pricing environment. There is no doubt the market is very, very competitive,
but we lost during the quarter we would have a crew that the order book was not sufficient
enough to maintain a very high utilization rate week-to-week, month-to-month, and so we would have
periods where crews would be down a week to two weeks, waiting on a permit, in the middle of a
move, having to make a long move because thats where the next job was available. A lot of times
these were things outside of our control.
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We also are carrying some expense thats related to bringing down two more crews in the early part
of the quarter and working those costs back out. And back several years ago when we were growing
and expanding crews, it was very difficult and we made a comment about this to stay up with
the expense side. There is a lead-time on expenses when youre expanding. Well, there is a lag time
on expenses when youre coming down.
And so we talked in the last quarter that short-term utilization was every bit as important as the
long-term outlook. So at the very last half, maybe two-thirds, particular May and June, we had some
real issues with maintaining this short-term utilization rate. So where are we now? The market is
very competitive, there is no doubt about it. We feel very confident that our order book is
sufficient to get us into fiscal 2010, and we believe that we are generating enough backlog so to
speak to go farther.
We think we have increased our potential certainly in the oil-producing basins. Were seeing some
continued demand in the Appalachian and Marcellus play, the Haynesville. Were seeing some stuff
coming alive in the Fayetteville. Barnett has got a little bit of activity in it, so the large
shale basins are obviously in play and staying somewhat steady.
But we have been able to build a little bit of cushion in our order book with jobs of various
sizes, and so while were still in somewhat of a difficult situation short-term, I can tell you
that July has been better in terms of short-term utilization rates. I think weve got an order
book that we believe will allow us to mitigate those risks better than we had late in Q3.
The long winded answer to tell you that the biggest problem we did have a little bit of weather
here and there, but the biggest problem was getting jobs ready. At some point, we would have three
or four crews down for a short period of time, and they would go back up and another one would
come down, and so the biggest problem has been the short-term utilization issue, particularly the
last half to two-thirds of the quarter.
Marshall Adkins Raymond James Analyst
Okay. That was a good answer. Let me Im going to stay on that theme though just to drill down
because Im trying to at least from a modeling perspective try to figure out what is going to
change going forward. So it sounds like clearly the biggest issue was the fact that there was
utilization gaps in the schedule, and obviously you incur the expenses even if the crews arent
working for a day or two or a week as you get ready for a job, and that wasnt happening before.
Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
No. We had a very nice, strong run, even during the expansion years, of being able to maintain
that high short-term utilization rate as we were adding crew count. And now I know youre about to
ask a question, but were watching this very, very closely to see how this is going to impact us,
particularly as you get into the late fall where you start to get into things like hunting issues.
And so were going to continue to monitor we believe ten crews are the number. We believe the
utilization rates will be better. What theyre going to be I dont know, but were going to
continue to have to monitor this very, very closely to balance this ten crew-count number.
Marshall Adkins Raymond James Analyst
Okay. So you dont there is no really such thing as severance cost in your you mentioned there
was this lag on expenses. Thats not associated with severance costs so much, is it?
Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
No.
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Marshall Adkins Raymond James Analyst
Okay. So we can pull that out of the mix, pricing is obviously part of the mix. Pricing I assume has
come down.
Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
Price has come down, yes.
Marshall Adkins Raymond James Analyst
And can you give me any sense of magnitude? I mean, are we talking prices are down 10% or is it
just a couple percent or is it 30%?
Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
Its difficult to quantify that, Marshall, but
Marshall Adkins Raymond James Analyst
Just a ballpark guess.
Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
I dont know, Marshall, what 20%, 25% maybe in some areas. Some places its holding better than
that, but
Marshall Adkins Raymond James Analyst
So behind the utilization issue I would assume
Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
As were rolling onto it, yes.
Marshall Adkins Raymond James Analyst
I would assume pricing would be probably the next biggest issue
Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
Yes.
Marshall Adkins Raymond James Analyst
in terms of the margin degradation. And prices probably stay down for a while. I mean, Im not
seeing anticipating any major spike in activity, but if you stay where you are prices will
probably hold more or less where they are, fair?
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Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
Yes, Marshall, I believe so. I want to just interject something right there. Our contract mix is
changing, too, and so were we talked about it last quarter. Were moving more toward the
turnkey contract. Were still operating some day rate stuff in certain areas, but yes, weve got a
little bit or not a little bit. There is softening in the pricing of our product. But as we move
more towards a turnkey operation, we believe there are some things that we can do in efficiencies,
in things like moves and just overall efficiency during the day with increased channel count as we
move some of these resources onto other crews, we believe we can have a chance to close some of
that pricing gap.
The key is going to be are we going to be able to maintain steady operations day-to-day and not
just be efficient during the day but move efficiently. The other component to that is, as weve
talked in the past, when the market softens, you know, utilization goes down, pricing comes down,
but some of the contract terms that weve had in the last few years begin to change a little bit.
We have not lost weather protection, but it is certainly softer than it was, you know, a year ago
or so. And so there is all these things that are going to fit into this deal thats just really
hard to identify any one thing as the issue going forward.
Marshall Adkins Raymond James Analyst
Right.
Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
I still believe that utilization, short-term utilization rates will be the single or the largest
issue going forward.
Marshall Adkins Raymond James Analyst
Okay. Last component of this question. Chris, it appeared that your bad debt expense bounced up
certainly from the September fiscal year end. Can you give me a sense of how that changed
quarter-to-quarter on the bad debt side?
Christina Hagan Dawson Geophysical EVP & CFO
Well, we looked at the bad debt in quarter 2 and did some work there. We didnt really do a whole
lot in quarter 3. Were looking at just different things using the same mix that we always do
in our bad debt expense, and continue to monitor credit and feel like that were doing a good job
of that and
Marshall Adkins Raymond James Analyst
So the big jump and the bad debt was last quarter, not so much this quarter?
Christina Hagan Dawson Geophysical EVP & CFO
Correct, in quarter 2.
Marshall Adkins Raymond James Analyst
All right.
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Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
Q2, yes.
Marshall Adkins Raymond James Analyst
And best you can tell right now that isnt going to change a lot going forward?
Christina Hagan Dawson Geophysical EVP & CFO
Well, we sure hope not.
Marshall Adkins Raymond James Analyst
Okay. All right. So bottom line, just to wrap this question up and turn it over to somebody else,
it appear given the issues that affected margins negatively, if you can get a little better
utilization, maybe you get some modest mixed change that helps pricing. When I look at margins
trying to model them out going forward, our crew count holds more or less where it is, and all this
assume this is best we can tell. I mean, we dont know for sure, none of us do, but best we can
tell crew count holds the same. Maybe we get some modest margin improvement next quarter due to
better efficiencies, due to modestly higher pricing, and thats probably about it. Is that fair?
Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
Yes, I think thats fair, Marshall. I would say that as weve said in the past and as we have in
all the years that youve been following us and others, we dont make decisions around our Company
on a quarter-to-quarter basis, and so this margin issue is going to be a difficult issue in the
near term. There is no question about it, and we have all these issues to deal with. But long-term I think we are doing some things that give us a chance to come out of this cycle stronger
and we hope and we believe in better shape.
And that is, you know, weve got this strong balance sheet, weve got equipment thats ready to go
and in good shape so were not having to look at a huge CapEx program right now, and we are
investing in people. You talked earlier about severance cost, and some of these costs were
maintaining. We want to be in a position, as we have in the past, that when things recover, and we
believe they will I dont know what the timing is going to be, but when they recover were
going to be in a position to capture the upside in a manner similar to what we did in 2003, 2004,
2005.
And so weve got pricing, weve got utilization, weve got all those things weve talked about,
but do keep in mind that we are continuing to monitor this thing very closely, but were making
decisions around here that are long-term that we believe are in the best interest of not just the
Company but our shareholders certainly.
Marshall Adkins Raymond James Analyst
Thats what youve always done, and Im going to turn it over to someone else so I dont monopolize
your time here. Ill re-queue for a later question. Thank you.
Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
Thank you, Marshall.
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Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Neal Dingmann with Wunderlich Securities.
Neal Dingmann Wunderlich Securities Analyst
Good morning, guys.
Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
Good morning, Neal. Good to hear from you.
Neal Dingmann Wunderlich Securities Analyst
Ill try to stay away from the backlog question, Steve.
Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
Yeah.
Neal Dingmann Wunderlich Securities Analyst
Hey, give me an idea on you mentioned about 30% of business now is oil-related. The size of
these type of jobs versus sort of the more I guess some of your other prior conventional versus
as you move into more and more of these shale plays, kind of, I dont know, from a channel count or
just from a general size, trying to get an idea of the difference between these jobs.
Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
I think the mix is very similar to what we see in the shale basin natural gas stuff. Weve got
some projects that are very large in scope, things that can be a couple hundred square miles that
are going to require a very high channel count, not just for imaging purposes but for efficiency
purposes. And then weve got some projects, particularly in West Texas that are much smaller in
size where they dont require the channel count necessarily for imaging purposes, but the channel
count is certainly helping on the efficiency side.
And so in the West Texas area, weve got some projects of all different sizes, which weve always
had that mix in there, Neal, and thats a very positive thats something that we had missed,
particularly in Q3, was the ability to move a crew that is between very large jobs, to have a job
that two weeks in length to fill that gap, for example. Weve had that for many, many years. We
lost it. Were getting some of that back, and so we dont get to talk about the high channel count
issue as much when you have the small West Texas jobs, but what we do get to have is the ability
to mitigate that short-term downtime issue.
Small jobs tend to get ready quicker. They tend to be things you can move on and move off of, and
theyre almost as we would call them gap fillers. And so the encouraging thing about the oil side
is we are seeing jobs of all sizes and all ranges, and spread out in an area that maybe we can
mitigate some of that weather risk, too.
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Neal
Dingmann Wunderlich Securities Analyst
Sure, okay. Great answer. And then wondering you said youve gone down to ten crews, but it sounds
like youre confident enough that you can keep these busy well into 2010. What would you have to
see if these are going to be busy and you see that backlog, just kind of orders that are out
there, what would you have to see to bring out or basically re-bring one of these one or two of
these crews that you had let go?
Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
Neal, that is a tough, tough call. I mean, the thing that we looked at on crew expansion in the
past was was there long-term visibility? Was there just a feel in the market that this was that
you had market strength going forward? Couple that with the fact that can you put the crew out and
maintain its operation day-to-day where youre not impacting where the addition of the crew does
not impact the utilization rates of existing crews. And so we have to monitor that equation very
closely going up and coming back down, and so we have to be in a position that is really a very
fluid dynamic here.
Now, a couple things I want to add in here. We never have lost sight around here of our clients
needs, and were not going to. And so there may be situations where you may have to short-term put
a crew back to work to help our client meet a need that they have, a commitment that weve made
that could be a timing issue. And so a lot of times its the needs of our clients that will
dictate what the crew count number may adjust short-term.
We are in a position that expanding to an 11th crew, 12th crew, and boy I hope that I hope were
having this conversation soon, but were in a position where it does not require a capital
expenditure. So its something that can move very, very quickly in terms of assets and in terms of
personnel because we are maintaining personnel right now, particularly key personnel, that allows
us to put out adjust our crew count as needed with high-quality people and good technology.
So the cost issue, the capital issue is not there. The decision what Im saying is the decision
is a little bit easier to make now because were not having to look at a long-term capital
expenditure. Were going to do everything we can do and watch the market very closely to put the
assets back to work in a very prudent manner.
Neal
Dingmann Wunderlich Securities Analyst
So Steve, are you saying as far as when you went from 16 to 10 crews on a personnel side, if for
some reason demand just took off overnight and you wanted to go back to, I dont know, 14,15
crews, is most of that personnel still around or would it be would you have to bring them back,
or I guess what or maybe to ask it a different way, what sort of has the employee count gone to
today versus a couple quarters ago or a quarter ago?
Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
Well, the last quarter we were at right around 1,000 people, something like that. We were at a
high of 1,575. We always have a high turnover rate at the labor level, but I would tell you that
when demand picks up and this cycle turns, we are going to be in a position to react very, very
quickly.
The labor is available, but on the trained, high-end crew management operational staff, we have
maintained those people. Everybody that ran a crew when we were at 16 is still aboard. Everybody
who operated a recording truck is still aboard. The high-end LiveOps troubleshooters, those kind
of guys are still available to us, so we are making an investment in what we think is our greatest
asset, and thats our people and our ability to move very quickly, not if but when this cycle
turns.
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Neal Dingmann Wunderlich Securities Analyst
Got it. And then last question, would you consider it seems versus the volatility we always see
continue to see domestically, international, or at least certain regions, seem to be a bit more
stable. Would you consider at some point I know in the past you havent necessarily said you
would go there. Would you consider international in these days?
Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
Neal, we look at all opportunities. We still believe that over the long haul in terms of crew
count, that the US market is still a very large market for seismic services. And so we believe
this market long-term will be around. It has been highly volatile certainly of late, and going
back ten years ago we went through a cycle similar to this.
The international world is not as easy to just say Im going to go international as it sounds. I
mean, you have to look at things. You talk about stability in the international world. Well,
youve got safety issues. Youve got political stability issues. Youve got working for NOCs is
obviously a very positive for a lot of people. There is connections that have to be made, and so
its not an easy thing to just enter the international market.
The other thing is weve had some international opportunities. Although they havent been real
strong, weve had people talk to us about it. But Ive never really gotten the feeling that we
were invited into a country for anything other than to promote competition. And so the answer to
the question is we look at all opportunities and we examine them closely, but the international
world is something that it would have to be the right situation with the right set of
circumstances for us to move.
And if that opportunity were to come available, we would certainly be interested in furthering
those conversations. But as of right now, we dont have any plans. Desires and plans are two
different things. We dont have any plans to go into the international market.
Neal Dingmann Wunderlich Securities Analyst
All right. Great answer, Steve. Thanks.
Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
Thank you, Neal. And good to talk to you again.
Neal Dingmann Wunderlich Securities Analyst
Yes, you too.
Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
Maybe Ill see you next week.
Neal Dingmann Wunderlich Securities Analyst
Yes, sir.
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Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Pierre Conner with Capital One.
Pierre Conner Capital One Analyst
Can you hear me all right?
Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
We got you, Pierre. There you are. I hear you.
Pierre Conner Capital One Analyst
Very good. Hey, going to this effective utilization question and how that impacted the margins,
and what I was looking for, of course, was some kind of a metric on utilization in terms of can
you even give us a range of days working as a percentage of days you had available? So just to
give us a feel for the magnitude of that impact.
Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
May was really difficult. We had probably, I dont know, five or six crews in May that were
impacted in a span of ten days to two weeks. In June, that number was probably four or five crews
again, but it was on different crews. And so utilization rate is and I know you get tired of
hearing this, but its hard to quantify because you expect some level of downtime between a move,
and so how efficiently you can get that move, you can get equipment laid out and move the crew
where youre generating revenue, particularly on turnkey contracts.
And I think the mix of weve talked about the change between turnkey and day rate contracts,
and with turnkey contracts you have quite a bit higher margin potential but you bring with it a
little more risk. And some of the risk is in effect in some of the timing of a crew move where
you may be laying out and not generating revenue until you actually start acquiring data whereas
on a day rate contract youre getting paid for that time. But May and June were significantly
impacted with four to five crews, and sometimes as many as six crews down for ten days to two
weeks or so.
Pierre Conner Capital One Analyst
Okay. I appreciate that kind of just numbers on it, Steve. So there was a thought I believe we
discussed that additional people and equipment on some of your crews, particularly turnkey
could drive efficiency such that it would on a turnkey job complete the shoot faster. Obviously
that was offset in this quarter. Is that building to the extent that if you have some short-term
obviously I dont think you garnered any benefit from that available efficiency that came
through anyway.
Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
That is an interesting comment, Pierre, because when you are in a short-term utilization issue,
sometimes crew efficiency works against you because you finish the job quicker and dont have
anywhere to go, and so you generate the revenue quicker but youre down a couple of days and so
it really becomes an offset. Were going to build efficiencies. Were going to do some things on
the operations side that we believe are going to help us. But its a matter of having enough
projects in the queue that are permitted, surveyed and ready to go. We feel more confident now
in our ability to maintain that utilization rate than we did a month or two ago.
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Pierre Conner Capital One Analyst
Okay.
Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
Its still treacherous. I mean, you can take you can have something change. You can have a
landowner that pops up or a mineral interest owner or your client may have a delay on with a
partner or something. There is a lot of moving parts to that, but we feel better about it. Were
really encouraged that some of the oil-producing stuff that weve talked about for almost a year
now appears to be coming to life a little bit, and were really encouraged that the large shale
basins are holding in there fairly solidly with jobs of all sizes.
So its going to be not just a mix of contract type but a mix of job size and location, and where
theyre going to be and what kind of move do you have to get. For example, in the quarter we had to
move a crew from Texas to Oregon and back. Thats not the kind of crew move you want to make. Given
that timing you would rather move somebody from the western part of the US over there, but due to
utilization issues we had and to get the job done we had to make a long move. And so as you get
jobs spread out in various areas, you not only affect the short-term utilization rate but you
affect the ability to move a crew your moving efficiency is much better, and so
Pierre Conner Capital One Analyst
Okay. Steve, on the third-party charges, and I think we had gotten you say previously, second
quarter was at the low end and then Im ?
Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
Yes. And that jumped as a percentage of revenue to a much higher rate than it had been in the prior
quarter. I felt like in Q2 that we were probably at the low end of that, but that percentage can
change. It was probably I dont think the actual level of dollar-wise increased all that much. It
was probably the drop in revenue on the other well, we did have an increase in Q3, so had a
little bit of increase in some projects that we recently got or picked up late in the quarter in
the Appalachian Basin that brought with it some third-party charges and offset with the utilization
issue made the percentage go up.
Pierre Conner Capital One Analyst
So are you above sort of the ?
Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
And I was surprised.
Pierre
Conner Capital One Analyst
Yeah. So youre above sort of your historical you had bracketed it at one time sort of 25% to
35%. And Im not trying to put words in your mouth but
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Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
Yeah, were on a high were up.
Pierre Conner Capital One Analyst
Up above that. Okay, great.
Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
Yes.
Pierre Conner Capital One Analyst
All right. So a couple quick things.
Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
Okay.
Pierre Conner Capital One Analyst
I want to clarify this question about pricing. There was some comment about pricing stabilized and
then maybe Marshall was talking about buying about pricing, and so I want to get some clarity. Are
you seeing pricing and this is I know its maybe not the biggest factor, but are you seeing
pricing improve? Is that what you were implying or its basically
Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
No, no.
Pierre Conner Capital One Analyst
just stabilized?
Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
I think it feels like its somewhat Im not seeing the drop that we probably saw over the last
quarter or so.
Pierre Conner Capital One Analyst
Okay.
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Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
But I still think there are some things out there that pricing, Im just going to leave you with
this. Pricing is very, very competitive, and so we recognize that and were going to have to do
whatever we can do around here to offset that pricing issue with efficiency gains on turnkey
contracts until we get some recovery in the market in the lower 48. Were not out of the woods yet.
Pierre Conner Capital One Analyst
All right. Let me try this, too. Im piecing together all that youre saying, and my assumption is
that the increase in the shorter-term jobs that come up and allow you to get a little better
continuity efficiency
Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
Yes.
Pierre
Conner Capital One Analyst
those are oil-based, and then what I was going to ask geographically besides sort of Williston,
there also is this are we going back into West Texas?
Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
Yes.
Pierre Conner Capital One Analyst
It might be easier and shorter to get to?
Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
Yes.
Pierre Conner Capital One Analyst
Okay. All right.
Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
And whats interesting about West Texas, weve had one of the wettest Julys weve had in I dont
know how many years, ever I think. Its rained it hasnt rained anywhere in Texas but right here
in West Texas, so that just kind of tells you where our luck is these days.
Pierre
Conner Capital One Analyst
All right. Im sorry to keep this going, but Ive just got some others on my mind I need to check
with you on. One is the FireFly deployment. Recently ION had a press release and you all were
working with them on that.
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Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
Right.
Pierre Conner Capital One Analyst
Tell us about the impact. What is that, positive, neutral? How is that changing?
Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
I think from a revenue standpoint, from a financial standpoint I think its probably a neutral move
for us.
Pierre Conner Capital One Analyst
Okay.
Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
On the technology standpoint, being able to work with the technology and get our hands on it and
actually have some experience with it, our relationship with the client thats deploying the
equipment, those are extremely positive for us. And I think the first test job went pretty well,
and were excited to see how the next project goes with it.
Pierre Conner Capital One Analyst
Okay. This one is for Christina. My assumption or based on the numbers you gave us on total
CapEx to date fiscal, the total in the quarter was something in the neighborhood of $200,000 -
Christina Hagan Dawson Geophysical EVP & CFO
For the quarter
Pierre Conner Capital One Analyst
or less?
Christina Hagan Dawson Geophysical EVP & CFO
it was less than that. It was more in the neighborhood of just barely anything really.
Pierre Conner Capital One Analyst
Okay.
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Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
Yeah.
Pierre Conner Capital One Analyst
Okay.
Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
Maybe a computer or something.
Christina Hagan Dawson Geophysical EVP & CFO
Yeah.
Pierre Conner Capital One Analyst
I understand. All right. Well, Im going to save some questions for next week, Steve.
Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
Well, Ill be there and look forward to seeing you, Pierre.
Pierre Conner Capital One Analyst
Same here.
Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
Thank you.
Pierre Conner Capital One Analyst
Thank you all.
Operator
(OPERATOR INSTRUCTIONS) Your next question comes from the line of Veny Aleksandrov with Pritchard
Capital Partners.
Veny Aleksandrov Pritchard Capital Partners Analyst
Good morning.
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Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
Good morning, Veny.
Veny Aleksandrov Pritchard Capital Partners Analyst
Most of my questions got answered, but I have one left on the third-party charges for
reimbursables, Steve. You were working in areas with limited access and you had more than 35% this
quarter. If you are moving back to West Texas and away from those areas, can we expect the
reimbursables to go down from the 35% next quarter?
Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
Well, Veny, I made the comment in the last quarter conference call that I thought that was a true
statement and they went up on us, and so Im going to have to say that I think well stay in the
ranges that weve been in historically but
Veny Aleksandrov Pritchard Capital Partners Analyst
But do you mean from a dollar-wise standpoint or from ?
Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
Yes, from a dollar amount. And weve still got quite a bit of activity in Louisiana and the
Appalachian and East Texas. When we move back into East Texas there will be some third-party
charges there, and in Arkansas, so I think that the reimbursables are as they always have been and
always will be. They will be a factor in the margin. What the number is going to be, Veny, I just
cant make that prediction because it can be a timing issue.
Veny Aleksandrov Pritchard Capital Partners Analyst
Yeah.
Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
It can be prepping a job in the Appalachian Basin that carries with it a lot of third-party party
charges, but the crew doesnt get there until the following quarter where youre generating
revenue off of it, and that can change in a minute. And so I thats something weve always lived
with, and I think well continue to live with that issue. And the good thing about the high
reimbursable level is it tells us that were still active in these large shale basins where the
reimbursables are high. And thats a positive that there is still quite a bit of interest in these
areas.
Veny Aleksandrov Pritchard Capital Partners Analyst
And just to go back on the comment that you just made, can we see some offsets next quarter on the
margins from work that you have done this quarter on the reimbursables where the revenues will
come next quarter?
Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
We said in the last conference call that we dont know where the margin issue is going to go. I
think its going to be very difficult for us to predict.
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Veny Aleksandrov Pritchard Capital Partners Analyst
Okay.
Steve
Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
It goes back to this utilization rate and crew efficiencies and all these things weve talked
about, and well just have to wait and see. I know thats not the right answer but thats the best
answer I can give right now.
Veny Aleksandrov Pritchard Capital Partners Analyst
I understand. Thank you so much. I appreciate it.
Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
Thank you.
Operator
(OPERATOR INSTRUCTIONS) Well pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. At this time
there are no questions in queue.
Steve Jumper Dawson Geophysical President & CEO
Okay. Stephanie, appreciate your help with the call. I would certainly want to thank everybody for
listening in, particularly our employees for their continued effort, our clients for their
continued trust, and our shareholders for their continued support. We will be presenting at the
EnerCom Conference in Denver on August 10th, and I believe that information is available on our
website.
Im going to close with some comments and just say that weve been here before. We have a
time-tested strategy and a very long-term thinking approach in our company. We are in some
difficult times, and were going to monitor the crew count very, very closely. Were going to
continue to make investments in our core assets, and were going to be in a position that we will
be able to respond to the market turn very, very quickly. We have a balance sheet that allows us to
do that, and were going to do everything we can do to maintain the strength and protect that
balance sheet, continue to look at opportunities.
Were not excited about where we are today but were very excited about the future and where were
going. Were very encouraged with the continued demand in the shale basins and were even more
encouraged with the outlook in some of the oil-producing basins. And we will be here next quarter
to talk to you again and be here in many quarters to go, and management has a commitment to the
shareholders of our company and our clients and our employees to make decisions day-to-day that we
believe will be in the best interest of all parties concerned over the long-term.
Thank you very much for listening in, and with that, Operator, were going to close.
Operator
Thank you. This concludes todays conference call. You may now disconnect.
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